Who's Your Band? - Episode 163- 2025 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Nominees with Comedian Ken Krantz
Who's Your Band episode 163 with hosts Sean Morton and Jeffrey Paul, and special guest comedian Ken Krantz!
On this week's special episode of Who's Your Band, we're joined by comedian Ken Krantz as we take a look at the nominees for the 2025 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame! We debate who should get in, and who shouldn't, as well as debating other music topics and so much more!
Transcript
Welcome, everybody, to Hoojah Band.
Speaker A:I am Jeffrey Paul.
Speaker A:I am joined by Sean Morton.
Speaker A:How are you, Sean?
Speaker B:I am fantastic.
Speaker B:Jeffrey, how are you doing on this beautiful night?
Speaker A:Yeah, it's cold.
Speaker A:It's been a minute since we've done the show.
Speaker A:We've both been incredibly busy.
Speaker A:A lot has been going on.
Speaker A:The last time I saw you was about two and a half weeks ago.
Speaker A:We did a show together in New Egypt, New Jersey.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:Yeah, that was a good show, actually.
Speaker B:It was nice and packed.
Speaker B:Everybody did great.
Speaker B:Already got invited back for next year, which is awesome.
Speaker B:So comics this time and.
Speaker B:Oh, everybody did great.
Speaker B:It was a great show.
Speaker B:Yeah, all around.
Speaker B:It was.
Speaker B:It was.
Speaker B:It was a really cool night.
Speaker B:I mean, I could barely walk because we had a little incident when I.
Speaker B:When I decided to become an old man and fall in my shower.
Speaker A:Yeah, naked.
Speaker A:Sean fell into it.
Speaker B:No, I wasn't naked yet.
Speaker B:I wasn't naked yet.
Speaker B:I had clothes on.
Speaker A:What were you wearing?
Speaker B:What I'm wearing.
Speaker A:Slow slide.
Speaker A:Slow slide, Slow.
Speaker A:What were you wearing?
Speaker B:It was one of those weird things where, like, you just lose your balance and like, I.
Speaker B:I went back first into my shower and I was.
Speaker B:I was really high 24 hours a day for five days straight between the muscle relaxers and the extreme amount of weed.
Speaker B:But we met.
Speaker B:I was.
Speaker B:Almost had to cancel the show.
Speaker B:Really, though the one we were on if I.
Speaker B:If I wasn't turning the corner.
Speaker B:But luckily we did.
Speaker B:Jeffrey did amazing.
Speaker B:John Kirschner did fantastic.
Speaker B:And speaking of other shitty comics, I would like to actually introduce our guest, uh, this time.
Speaker B:Jeffrey.
Speaker A:Go right ahead.
Speaker B:Go right ahead.
Speaker B:I have always.
Speaker B:I.
Speaker B:I give this guy a lot of praise when I really should not, but in my opinion, is actually the best writer I know.
Speaker B:He really, truly is the best writer that I know.
Speaker B:And if I ever had a sitcom, he'd be the first person that I would sign.
Speaker A:Hold on a second.
Speaker A:Is he good at lighting?
Speaker C:No.
Speaker C:No.
Speaker C:I don't know.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker B:Apparently it's a powder.
Speaker C:I know.
Speaker C:I'm not.
Speaker C:I don't know.
Speaker B:Why do you strike it?
Speaker B:Jesus.
Speaker B:He is a wonderful, wonderful comedian and he just taped his last special in December, which is going to be coming out soon.
Speaker B:Our good friend, Ken Krantz.
Speaker A:Welcome to the show, Ken.
Speaker C:Thank you for having me.
Speaker C:I actually, like now know what I would look like as a ghost.
Speaker C:So this is.
Speaker B:Yeah, I actually got to meet Ken.
Speaker B:What's the name of your new podcast that you're doing?
Speaker C:A bit too.
Speaker C:I forgot for a second, a bit.
Speaker B:Too much A bit too much.
Speaker B:So I got to meet your co host for the first time last Friday.
Speaker B:Carmelo.
Speaker B:Great guy.
Speaker B:And I realize now that I have a kindred spirit with him because he's a really funny guy, really funny comic, really, really nice guy.
Speaker B:And his co host is also a real gigantic piece of shit.
Speaker B:So I had this real kindred relationship with this guy, and I'm looking forward to going on your show soon, which is gonna be fun.
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah, it's.
Speaker C:He sent me a picture, the two of you giving me a finger.
Speaker C:Giving me the finger.
Speaker C:And I wrote back that he's fatter than you now.
Speaker A:Have you seen Sean recently?
Speaker C:He looks amazing.
Speaker A:I mean, he looks better.
Speaker A:It's like, amazing.
Speaker C:He.
Speaker C:Did you ever think you would see him like this alive?
Speaker C:I thought he'd be rotting flesh by now.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah.
Speaker A:Me and you both.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:But yet we are going on this year five or six of this show.
Speaker B:Five.
Speaker B:Five long years.
Speaker A:Feels like six, 16.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:But so I, I wanted Ken on this show for a couple of reasons.
Speaker A:You know, I like you.
Speaker A:I, I, I, I love Ken posing.
Speaker A:I think he, he's, he's a very smart guy, but he also has an interesting take on music.
Speaker A:I think, I think he's insightful, and I think he, you know, he knows what he's talking about.
Speaker A:And so there's.
Speaker A:Since we kind.
Speaker A:Since the last time we kind of did this, because it's been a couple of weeks, a lot has been going on in the world of music, and I wanted to kind of, like, bring it up.
Speaker A:So the first thing I wanted to talk about is something that we do every year on the show.
Speaker A:This is going to be about the fifth, sixth time we've done it, and it's the Rock and Roll hall of Fame nominations.
Speaker A:So if Adam.
Speaker A:Here we go.
Speaker A:So I want to go through this list with you guys.
Speaker A:So here you can see to me.
Speaker A:I don't think it's.
Speaker A:It's the most outstanding list I've seen in the last couple of years.
Speaker B:And remember, too, though, we have five to seven picks because there's a minimum of five, maximum of seven.
Speaker A:So let's do this.
Speaker A:Let's pick six on this list who we would put it into the Rock and Roll hall of Fame.
Speaker A:And a couple of them, I think, are repeats from last year.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:So, Ken, since you're a guest, who on this list are you putting?
Speaker A:Like, is there anybody who jumps out at you?
Speaker A:Like, they have to be in.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:I would start with Oasis isn't even My favorite band on this list, but Oasis was one of the biggest because they.
Speaker C:They were the biggest band in the world at the.
Speaker C:At the time that they were around.
Speaker C:They were.
Speaker C:They were legitimately as big as the Beatles over in the uk, Right.
Speaker A:But not in the United States.
Speaker A:They were.
Speaker A:They were big.
Speaker A:Wonderwall was a huge hit here.
Speaker A:I mean, I think it was one of the biggest hits of the 90s.
Speaker C:But they sold tens of millions of records.
Speaker C:They had Wonderwall, Champagne, Supernova, Don't Look Back In Anger.
Speaker C:Like they're.
Speaker C:Those first two albums were almost flawless.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker C:And.
Speaker C:And, But I think even more than that is who was more rock and roll in this band, though.
Speaker C:Those.
Speaker C:They're the last, like, real rock stars left.
Speaker C:Like, they're.
Speaker C:They're the only ones still acting like rock stars.
Speaker A:I think the pushback on Oasis was always.
Speaker A:Especially, you know, you bring up a song like Don't Look Back In Anger is that they were kind of like a Beatles ripoff band.
Speaker A:And so you can rip off anybody.
Speaker A:Beatles aren't a bad band to rip off.
Speaker C:But.
Speaker A:But were they.
Speaker A:And I'm just playing devil's advocate here, are they unique?
Speaker A:Are they, you know, like.
Speaker A:Like out of this list, this was the first group that you.
Speaker A:That you said jumped out at you, and I'm kind of like, oh, man.
Speaker A:For me, they're kind of on the.
Speaker A:On the cusp of.
Speaker A:Of.
Speaker A:Of my six.
Speaker C:From.
Speaker C:From the time that they were signed, the.
Speaker C:The time they got signed, they got signed for a record deal on, like, their sixth or seventh gig, and from the time that they were signed, it was under three years before they were selling out, like, Wembley.
Speaker C:And wait, what's the.
Speaker C:What's the real big one over there?
Speaker A:That's it.
Speaker A:Wembley.
Speaker A:You got the O2, which is kind of like their version of the Garden, and you got Wembley, which is kind of like their Yankee Stadium.
Speaker C:Now, what's the one that holds, like, a hundred thousand Daniel Wembley.
Speaker A:That's where everything.
Speaker A:That's where Live Aid was.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah, Where Live Aid was.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's Wembley.
Speaker A:Sean, who you go with on this list?
Speaker A:And if you say Mariah Carey, you're done.
Speaker B:Well, she's going to be on the list, but I won't pick her first.
Speaker B:I think it's going to be.
Speaker B:If you look at the way the Rock and Roll hall of Fame puts their people in, they do it either when they.
Speaker B:The year before, they had something going on with that person, like, kind of like when Joan Jett played with Nirvana and then all of A sudden next year she got into the hall of Fame or when people are announcing retirements and like that.
Speaker B:You want me to give one or you want me to give my whole six?
Speaker A:Just give one right now.
Speaker B:One, I think, because he is getting a lot of notoriety right now.
Speaker B:I'm gonna go with the White Stripes.
Speaker B:They're gonna go in this year.
Speaker A:See, it's another one.
Speaker A:Why the White Stripes?
Speaker B:Because I, I, if Jack could go in solo, I think it would be.
Speaker B:He would go in solo and I'm sure later on in life he will.
Speaker B:But they were such a different kind of band, you know, and just a different sound with a two piece and they combined so many different things.
Speaker B:Like even just like.
Speaker B:And sounds stupid to say this, but Color schemes, you know, doing the whole red, white and black thing too.
Speaker B:For almost all their albums, it's little things like that.
Speaker B:And they were just so raw and simplistic and that's the reason why I personally started to really like that band and then branch off to, you know, with Jack White's other stuff with the Raconteurs and shit like that.
Speaker B:But yeah, I personally, I think they go in this year.
Speaker A:It wouldn't surprise me if either one of those two bands got in.
Speaker A:For me, the one that jumped off here, I can't believe that not in is Bad Company.
Speaker A:I mean you got Paul Rogers, who's probably one of the top, he's an easier top 10 all time rock and roll singer.
Speaker A:You know, he's, he's sang some of the most iconic songs and he's not in the Rock and roll hall of Fame in any incarnation, whether it be a solo artist, whether.
Speaker A:Yeah, I mean, how is he not represented?
Speaker A:But yet Stevie Nicks is in twice before Paul Rogers and even in once.
Speaker A:So to me, I mean it's, and it's not even just because of Paul Rogers and the band.
Speaker A:It's the catalog of songs.
Speaker A:I mean they had a shooting star, Bad Company, Can't Get Enough of your love.
Speaker A:I mean, just to name a couple, right off the top of my head, they were like one of the big super groups of the 70s into the 80s as well.
Speaker A:Rock and Roll Fantasy, you know, was a big song.
Speaker A:You know, the end of 70s into the 80s has been played on so many different soundtracks.
Speaker A:I don't know how this band is left out.
Speaker A:And so for me, I would put Bad Company in.
Speaker C:I would not actually think out of the three of us, they probably have the best chance.
Speaker C:I don't think Oasis or the White Stripes will get in this year.
Speaker C:But I'm actually with Sean.
Speaker C:The White Stripes are my favorite band on this list.
Speaker A:Well, he made a good.
Speaker A:He really did make a good argument.
Speaker A:And I thought when he, you know, one thing I didn't consider when he talked about just like, I guess like the fashion, you know, we talked about the colors and what they did.
Speaker A:You know, I think those things go a long way.
Speaker A:It transcends music.
Speaker C:They kicked off a whole, like, garage rock revival.
Speaker C:Like, they started a whole scene out in Detroit.
Speaker C:There was a lot of bands right away trying to copy them.
Speaker A:Yeah, you guys are making a good argument for.
Speaker C:I don't, but I don't.
Speaker C:They just don't seem to get a lot of love for some reason that they've been up before.
Speaker C:And I don't think they've.
Speaker C:They come close.
Speaker A:Let's.
Speaker A:Let's try something else here.
Speaker A:If there's someone on this list, you would not put in.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker C:Fish.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I think we're all in agreement with that.
Speaker A:Fish.
Speaker A:Yeah, I mean, they are kind of like.
Speaker A:Like they were the new version, I think, of the Dead.
Speaker A:They were, you know, more of like a jam band.
Speaker A:No real hits.
Speaker A:More of like a live band than really one that's on record.
Speaker A:I can pick one.
Speaker A:Who.
Speaker A:Another band that you say has to.
Speaker C:Be in here, but also just.
Speaker C:I will.
Speaker C:But real quick, I want to disagree.
Speaker C:I actually think this is a great year.
Speaker C:Like, there's amazing bands on this list.
Speaker B:It's different.
Speaker B:It's a different year.
Speaker B:I think this is one of those years where you really don't know which.
Speaker A:Direction they're gonna go.100 with that.
Speaker A:But I don't think there are great bad.
Speaker A:I think the only great band on here really, really is Bad Company.
Speaker A:Now, don't get me wrong, I do love Oasis.
Speaker A:I do that.
Speaker A:They're probably my second favorite band on this list.
Speaker A:I.
Speaker A:I like them.
Speaker A:I just think there's.
Speaker A:There are arguments again.
Speaker A:Like, there's no one that really besides Bad Company that jumps out at me and says, this is.
Speaker A:They have to be in this year.
Speaker C:All right, my next one.
Speaker C:And I feel like you guys are going to disagree, but Outcast.
Speaker B:Nope, that's my next one too, buddy.
Speaker A:No, I disagree.
Speaker C:Outcast brought Atlanta, like, to the world and they revolutionized hip hop.
Speaker C:And both those guys were ridiculously talented.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:And I saw them.
Speaker C:I've seen them live a bunch of times.
Speaker C:I saw them play little theater in New York City with DJ, but also a full like 10 piece funk band.
Speaker C:And it was the single Best hip hop show I ever saw.
Speaker C:They have that.
Speaker C:I still listen to their albums.
Speaker C:They've got three or four classic albums.
Speaker C:And I think if you're putting hip hop in with rock where I.
Speaker C:And I think it belongs, Outcast has got to be there.
Speaker B:Yeah, I agree with that because they, they're one of those bands that had so many different kinds of influences on them.
Speaker B:So you're hearing a lot of old school rap.
Speaker B:You're hearing a lot of hip hop, funk, soul, and even jazz at some, on some levels too.
Speaker B:And combining it all into one big pot and that they're like.
Speaker B:Between them and bands like, you know, I know you're a big deal.
Speaker B:A soul fan Tribe Called Quest, like these kind of bands are so ahead of their time and they did change the whole trajectory of hip hop.
Speaker B:And that's the only real kind of hip hop that I can really get into listening to all the time.
Speaker B:And Outcast is one of those band.
Speaker B:That last double album they put out was a really solid record because it was kind of like the two sides of them.
Speaker B:Like the one side was his record, the one side was the other guy.
Speaker C:Yeah, it was just two solo records packaged as.
Speaker B:But I loved it.
Speaker B:And yeah, I think, I think you're probably going to see them reunite very, very soon.
Speaker B:I think that's.
Speaker C:Dude seems real happy playing the flute out there like a black Ian Anderson.
Speaker A:The funny thing is I was listening to Outkast today again.
Speaker A:They're not someone I, I would, I would not put in.
Speaker A:Not on this list.
Speaker A:I think, I think I.
Speaker A:For my second choice on here, I would have gone Billy Idol again, you know, between Generation X.
Speaker A:Billy.
Speaker A:You know Billy.
Speaker A:I mean, listen to songs.
Speaker A:Moni, Moni.
Speaker A:Rebel Yell, Hot in the City, White Wedding.
Speaker A:And then, I mean, I think it's just not Billy Idol solo.
Speaker A:I think it's probably Billy Idol band as well.
Speaker A:Steve Stevens is considered really a top guitar player.
Speaker A:I mean a guy who doesn't get.
Speaker A:I, I don't think gets enough credit.
Speaker A:Although he does play a killer solo on Dirty Dian on Michael Jackson's record.
Speaker A:So I, I love Billy Idol on this.
Speaker A:He's, he's another guy that, that really like Bad Company and Billy Idol were the two that really, when I saw this was like, how are they not in?
Speaker A:And so I, I, I'm gonna go with Billy Idol.
Speaker B:I don't think it's a bad, I don't think it's a bad pick.
Speaker B:And I think one of the reasons why I would probably agree with you is the fact that he's just more of a singer at this point.
Speaker B:He's more of a, a pop culture, you know, I mean, everybody knows the Rebel Yell cover, you know, with the red and he's, you know, with the big freaking poofy hair from the wedding singer.
Speaker B:And his songs are, you know, his songs are the ones you play at a wedding.
Speaker B:You know what I mean?
Speaker B:You hear Mony Moani at a freaking wedding.
Speaker B:Your aunt knows that goddamn song, for Christ's sake, you know?
Speaker B:But I don't think it's a bad guy.
Speaker B:I don't think that's a bad pick at all.
Speaker A:Now, now we now when we go to number three, I think this, for me, this where it kind of gets tough and I would, I really think I would have a hard time picking six out of this list.
Speaker A:So I'm kind of curious to see who you guys.
Speaker C:Take six easy.
Speaker B:Yeah, that's not gonna pick any.
Speaker A:Oh, you guys are crazy.
Speaker A:Go ahead, go with, go with your number three, Ken.
Speaker C:Black Crows.
Speaker C:Black Crows are an the live band.
Speaker C:I've seen the most in my life.
Speaker C:I bought, I've bought more Black Crows tickets because they used to always be playing and you knew it was always going to be a great rock and roll show.
Speaker C:Now here's the thing, they got lost in the wilderness for a long time and there was like maybe a decade or two that sucked.
Speaker C:But their first run, their first three albums, shake your money maker, Southern Harmony and Musical Companion and A Morica were classic rock and roll album Southern Harmony.
Speaker A:Is that enough to get you into the hall of Fame?
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:Their reputation as a live act, their brothers, they're fighting, they're fist fighting on stage, they're getting thrown off tours because they're drunk and on drugs.
Speaker C:Like they're probably the biggest rock stars on the like them and always them in.
Speaker C:Oasis did a brotherly love tour together because they were known as, as the brothers that would fist fight on stage.
Speaker C:And what's more rock and roll than that, the Black Crows get in on attitude.
Speaker B:I think, I think you're spot on though, again for the same reason as Oasis going in, because they're back together.
Speaker B:And the Rock and Roll hall of Fame is also going to be looking into getting fucking ratings from having Oasis and the Black Crows, who have been.
Speaker A:Broken, abandoned the Rock and Hall of Fame to make them immortal.
Speaker C:Yeah, abba's in there.
Speaker C:You're telling me the Black Crows can't.
Speaker A:Be who's bigger, ABBA or the Black Crow?
Speaker C:Well, Is it's not about who's bigger, it's about who's, like, immortal, right?
Speaker C:Abba, and it's rock and roll.
Speaker C:Tell me what's rock and roll about?
Speaker C:Abba.
Speaker A:Elliott, That.
Speaker C:Well, I don't know who that is, so I can't.
Speaker A:Who are you going with, your third pick?
Speaker B:I'm just gonna get out of the way and I'm gonna say Mariah.
Speaker B:Only because there's no bigger female artist in the last 30 years than Mariah Carey.
Speaker B:And that's all I have to say about that.
Speaker B:Not the fact that I'm staring at a picture of her right in front of me half naked.
Speaker B:That's autographed, especially to me.
Speaker B:But, yeah, she's a, she's.
Speaker B:Look, she's a generational kind of singer.
Speaker B:You know what I mean?
Speaker B:Like, you don't get these kind of people who can go 30, 40 years at that level and she still sounds kind of decent.
Speaker A:It was big.
Speaker B:She was a monster, dude.
Speaker B: s and the: Speaker B:She never really trailed off.
Speaker B:And then she had the monster Christmas hit, and then that just catapulted her into the next level because now it's considered probably the.
Speaker B:I think it's the last great Christmas song, if you really think about it.
Speaker B:Really hasn't been anything else written in the last 20 years or so.
Speaker A:I think I.
Speaker A:I think the Ed Sharon, Elton John song is great.
Speaker A:It's good.
Speaker B:I think that song alone, just.
Speaker B:That song alone gets her into the Rock and Roll hall of Fame.
Speaker A:I think she gets in this year, too.
Speaker A:I mean, she, she.
Speaker A:She didn't make it last year, but there was some strong competition.
Speaker A:I think Cher took her spot last year.
Speaker B:Yeah, you had to give it to Cher.
Speaker B:And let me tell you something.
Speaker B:We'll talk about this maybe at the end of the show.
Speaker B:Just remind me to talk about Cher.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:For me, I think if you got Pearl Gym, Pearl Jam in there, and you got Nirvana, how do you leave out Soundgarden?
Speaker A:I think Soundgarden gets in.
Speaker A: s, you know, into the: Speaker A:I love great singers.
Speaker A:I thought he was the best singer of the.
Speaker A:The 90s.
Speaker A:Chris Cornell, so many great songs.
Speaker A:Black Hole sun, you know, you know, monster hits.
Speaker A:So I kind of think Sound Guard would be my third pick here.
Speaker B:See, I like them.
Speaker B:I mean, I really Dig.
Speaker B:Sound Guard, and I think musically, between Nirvana and Sound Guard, you pick Soundgarden musically, but I don't know they get in this year.
Speaker B:I don't know if they get in that.
Speaker B:This isn't their first year of eligibility.
Speaker C:It's insane that they're not in yet.
Speaker A:They were in last.
Speaker A:They were on the ballot last year as well.
Speaker B:I don't know, man.
Speaker B:I'm kind of on the fence with that.
Speaker B:I'm on the fence with that a little bit.
Speaker B:I think if we had the seventh pick, I would probably pick it as a seventh pick, but for only going six.
Speaker B:Oh, no.
Speaker A:Yeah, let's.
Speaker A:Since we have a couple of other things to talk about, let's go two more.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:So, Ken, who are you picking for your.
Speaker A:Your number four?
Speaker C:All right.
Speaker C:This isn't even a band that I like, but I recognize how influential they are.
Speaker C:I would go with Joy Division and New Order, and I feel like they probably will get in because I don't even know their catalog that much, but I know that I've read enough about all of the bands that they've influenced and how far and deep that touch goes.
Speaker C:It's like they cast a really wide net, and they're super influential.
Speaker C:I don't think they sold a lot of records, so they're not gonna get in on that.
Speaker C:I know.
Speaker C:My wife loves them.
Speaker A:Well, I.
Speaker A:I'm.
Speaker A:I'm in agreement with you here.
Speaker A:I loved New Order more than I like Joy Division.
Speaker A:Although Joy Division has a.
Speaker A:You know, Love Will Tell, Terrace will keep Us Apart.
Speaker A:That was a great song.
Speaker A:Also, I.
Speaker A:If I'm not mistaken, I think the singer, bass player.
Speaker A:Who's it.
Speaker A:Who's still alive in both.
Speaker C:Peter Hook.
Speaker A:Peter Hook.
Speaker A:Isn't he.
Speaker A:Is he.
Speaker A:Am I right?
Speaker A:Is he part of Gorillaz as well?
Speaker C:It's possible.
Speaker C:He's played.
Speaker C:I mean, they've played with everybody.
Speaker C:I don't.
Speaker C:I think that's like a evolving band.
Speaker C:It's just different.
Speaker A:But.
Speaker A:But regardless, I think New Order with Blue Monday, True Love, I mean, they have.
Speaker A:I mean, like, when I would go out clubbing, I mean, that was the music that I was dancing to.
Speaker A:I loved Love, New Order.
Speaker A:I think for that sound, they're pretty much, like, on the top of their game.
Speaker A:You know, I don't think that representation in the Rock and Roll hall of Fame get.
Speaker A:Gets.
Speaker A:Gets enough credit.
Speaker A:And I think, you know, they're a little overdue, so I could see them getting in this year as well.
Speaker B:I could just see you at a club trying to kick it to somebody dancing to Bizarre love Triangle.
Speaker B:You loser.
Speaker A:I wore Brutes and I had a long jacket.
Speaker A:I had a dangling earring.
Speaker B:And let's hear your pickup line.
Speaker B:What was.
Speaker B:What was your go to pickup line?
Speaker B:Trying to pick up the goth chick.
Speaker B:Because you were clearly goth.
Speaker A:I hadn't had a period, so it was New Order.
Speaker B:It was.
Speaker B:You definitely had a period once or twice in your life.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Who are you going with your fourth there, Sean?
Speaker B:So I picked White Stripes, Outcast and Mariah.
Speaker B:I.
Speaker B:You know, I don't want to always have to agree with Ken, but I'm going to put Oasis into my four slot, I think, again, just because of the.
Speaker B:No one ever thought they were going to get back together again.
Speaker B:I think that played a major part in them getting that.
Speaker B:That push to go in this year.
Speaker B:But like Ken said, those three records, I saw them at the old Izod center when what's the Story Morning Glory came out, and that place was packed to the gills and everybody sang every word to every song.
Speaker B:And it was one of the few shows I ever saw that happen.
Speaker B:And they were.
Speaker B:They were an absolute monster live.
Speaker B:Those first three records are a killer.
Speaker B:And like Ken said, too, they were on a different.
Speaker B:Even though they were big here, they were on a different level over in Europe, in.
Speaker B:In the uk.
Speaker B:And then when they.
Speaker B:When they came over here, you know, you mentioned, you know, they'd sound just like the Beatles.
Speaker B:Look, Guns N Roses is just a heavier version of the Stones, you know what I mean?
Speaker B:So you can't make comparisons like that.
Speaker B:You know, they're both great bands, but Oasis, I think at that time, notes of.
Speaker A:Of.
Speaker A:Of a John Lennon song to open up one of their own songs.
Speaker A:And they.
Speaker A:And they've done it before.
Speaker B:Yeah, but how many notes can you actually play, Dude?
Speaker B:Everything's written twice over and over again.
Speaker A:It's the, it's.
Speaker A:It's the same.
Speaker C:They ripped off that Coke commercial.
Speaker A:They ripped off a Coke commercial.
Speaker A:Come on, Sean, don't you have any integrity?
Speaker C:They said.
Speaker A:Not a Coke commercial.
Speaker A:You don't do that.
Speaker C:Liam Gallagher did an interview where he said, like, coat, like his lawyer was like, Cokes on the phone and they want money.
Speaker B:I still think one of the most badass things ever was him just refusing to play at the MTV Unplugged and saying that, you know, he wasn't feeling great.
Speaker C:He sat in the balcony and heckled Noel while Noel sang the songs like, there's more rock and roll than that.
Speaker B:And change his own band.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:It was great.
Speaker A:I would put him in just on that last one.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:This is not the WWE hall of Fame.
Speaker A:This is the Rock and Roll hall of Fame.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker C:That's some rock and roll.
Speaker A:That's some rock.
Speaker A:It is.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:Pick your last one.
Speaker C:My last one?
Speaker C:Well, we said.
Speaker C:I mean, I would probably put Soundgarden in.
Speaker C:I also wouldn't be surprised to see Cyndi Lauper get in.
Speaker A:That's who I would go with.
Speaker A:My last one.
Speaker B:Mine, too.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I mean, she was up last year.
Speaker A:I think it was.
Speaker A:It was Sharon.
Speaker A:Somebody else got in last year that I think kept Cyndi Lauper and Mariah out.
Speaker A:I can see.
Speaker A:I think definitely one of them, if not both, are getting in this year, I think.
Speaker B:This may sound weird, but I think it's okay to put Mariah and Cindy in on the same year.
Speaker B:But it's not okay to put Mariah and Cher in on the same year because I think they're two totally different.
Speaker B:Like, I think Mariah and Cher are kind of into that diva kind of category.
Speaker B:I don't think Cindy Walker falls into that category.
Speaker C:I sort of get that.
Speaker A:If they go.
Speaker A:What'd you say the max was?
Speaker A:8, 7.
Speaker B:Guarantee a 5.
Speaker B:Max.
Speaker B:7.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:So I.
Speaker A:I guess if they do go 7, I could see them both.
Speaker A:I could see them doing.
Speaker A:Going about five or six.
Speaker A:I don't know if Mariah gets in, although it wouldn't shock me if she did.
Speaker A:I don't.
Speaker A:I mean, Mana.
Speaker A:Aren't they like a.
Speaker A:A Spanish heavy metal band about him?
Speaker C:Yeah, it was the thing over the A.
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:And none of us brought up Chubby Checker.
Speaker A:I mean, he had a couple novelty hits, really.
Speaker A:The Twist and Do the Twist Again.
Speaker A:It's a sequel.
Speaker A:So he.
Speaker C:He kept going to that twist.
Speaker C:Well, he be like.
Speaker C:And here we are twisting in the.
Speaker A:70S again, twisting the night away.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:And then I thought maybe what's the name would get in?
Speaker A:Joe Kaka.
Speaker C:That's insane that he's not in.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:So I think.
Speaker A:I think that this is going to be a competitive list to try to narrow it down, and it's going to be interesting to see who gets left off.
Speaker B:I got the figures.
Speaker C:Joe Cocker and Chris Cornell and Liam Gallagher.
Speaker C:Those are four of the all time, like, greatest voices in rock history.
Speaker A:And they're all very, very different.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker A:All right, Adam, let's bring up that Forbes list.
Speaker A:This, I thought was kind of interesting as well.
Speaker A:This came out.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:And we kind of mean.
Speaker A:Sean and Adam were kind of like, send this around.
Speaker A:And a couple of other people sent it to me with thoughts on it, and I was like, I'm gonna hold off until we do a podcast about it.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker A:So what's your initial.
Speaker A:What's your initial thoughts when you saw this.
Speaker A:This ranking?
Speaker B:I.
Speaker B:I think the bands themselves are okay to be on the list.
Speaker B:I think that.
Speaker B:I think that the.
Speaker B:The numbering is completely off.
Speaker A:I agree with you.
Speaker B:You know, you don't put.
Speaker B:You don't put anybody.
Speaker C:What.
Speaker C:But what's it.
Speaker C:It's for.
Speaker C:This isn't like the top 30 earning.
Speaker C:This is just.
Speaker B:No, no, this is just their mix of their picks of what they are, in that order.
Speaker C:Yeah, no, there's some nonsense on here.
Speaker A:What stands out to you as nonsense, ken?
Speaker C:The top 30 rock bands of all time.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker C:Tool fucking Journey could take a hike.
Speaker C:I feel like Iron Maiden can take a height, but you guys are gonna.
Speaker B:Jump down my throat.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:Thank you for coming on the show, Ken.
Speaker A:In another five years, Pink Floyd could take a hike with this guy.
Speaker A:He's killing me.
Speaker C:Yeah, I mean, I feel like, listen, I would.
Speaker B:How do you not have Pearl Jam on here?
Speaker C:How do you not have the Ramones on there?
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker A:I mean, you started off good when you said Tool.
Speaker A:I mean, Tool is good.
Speaker A:They're real good.
Speaker C:Listen, all those bands are good, but top 30 of all time.
Speaker C:I'm not like a heavy metal dude, so I'm gonna also say this, which is probably my last appearance.
Speaker C:Metallica, for me, maybe Top three worst bands of all time.
Speaker A:I love that day.
Speaker B:Why.
Speaker A:Why don't you like Metallica?
Speaker C:I just.
Speaker C:It's just all of.
Speaker C:It's no good to me.
Speaker C:And I've seen them and people are.
Speaker C:You have to see them live.
Speaker C:And I saw them live, and it was.
Speaker C:I would just.
Speaker C:It's not my thing.
Speaker C:I just don't, like.
Speaker C:I just don't like.
Speaker A:Dude, I get it.
Speaker C:Mars comes across like maybe one of the biggest douchebags ever.
Speaker B:Well, that's.
Speaker B:Guarantee.
Speaker B:He knows it though, too, though.
Speaker C:Yeah, but.
Speaker C:So it's the.
Speaker C:But I recognize that they're amazing musicians.
Speaker C:Like, I get why people like them.
Speaker C:It's just not my thing.
Speaker A:You know, Insurance said, like, the bands are fine.
Speaker A:I'm like.
Speaker A:Like a couple of them.
Speaker A:I.
Speaker A:I would, like, toss out.
Speaker A:Like, I wouldn't put Radiohead on.
Speaker A:On this.
Speaker A:Although, I mean, I understand the importance of Radiohead.
Speaker A:They're just not for me.
Speaker A:But I'm not gonna say they.
Speaker A:They suck because, you know, obviously they have an audience and you know, they, they have made an impact in music.
Speaker A:I don't know if I'm putting Oasis as a top 30 of all, all time band.
Speaker A:I, I hate the Doors.
Speaker A:They're not for me.
Speaker B:But I despise the Doors.
Speaker A:But I understand it.
Speaker A:I think having Aerosmith 30.
Speaker A:30.
Speaker A:You mean ZZ Top is better than Hot, is better than Aerosmith?
Speaker C:I didn't even see Hart was on.
Speaker B:Here on there that I would, I would definitely take off.
Speaker B:I mean, again, I agree with the Doors.
Speaker B:I, Ken might not like this one.
Speaker B:I would probably take the Clash off of that list too.
Speaker A:No way.
Speaker C:That's insane.
Speaker B:No way.
Speaker B:Yeah, I might take them off just to, just to piss everybody off.
Speaker B:I, I agree.
Speaker B:I don't know that Journey, I mean they had a lot of hits, but I don't know that they fall into the greatest 30.
Speaker B:I mean, I'd take Pearl Jam over Journey any day of the week.
Speaker A:Would you?
Speaker A:Would you put Def Leppard over Journey?
Speaker B:No, no, no, I don't think so.
Speaker B:I mean, I'd say they're equal.
Speaker B:I'd say they're equal.
Speaker B:I wouldn't put them over.
Speaker A:What do you think about the, the, the rankings and especially the first five?
Speaker B:They're off because the Beatles are not.
Speaker B:The Beatles are always going to be number one.
Speaker A:Agreed.
Speaker B:You always got to put the Stones at number two.
Speaker A:I don't think they have to be.
Speaker A:I think it's more of an argument.
Speaker A:I think Beatles number one, but I think the argument more is Zeppelin number two or Stones number two.
Speaker B:I don't think, I don't think there's any comparison.
Speaker B:I think the Stones blew Zeppelin out of the water with that.
Speaker B:Then Zeppelin goes three.
Speaker B:I would put Queen at four and.
Speaker A:Pink Floyd five.
Speaker B:Floyd at five.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:No, I have a feeling Ken's gonna be much different this.
Speaker C:So I'm not even basing this.
Speaker C:I don't have a problem with Zeppelin01.
Speaker C:The Stones are my favorite band ever.
Speaker C:But I see how you can make the argument for Zeppelin.
Speaker C:I mean, they were pretty great and they were.
Speaker C:They all live like pretty great rock stars.
Speaker C:I would have Zeppelin or the Stones at one.
Speaker C:Oh, man, they got Jimi Hendrix at five.
Speaker C:Beatles, I guess.
Speaker C:But honestly, I wouldn't have them at 2.
Speaker C:But I guess you would need to.
Speaker C:I would have the Stones at three, maybe Van Halen at four.
Speaker B:Wow.
Speaker A:A lot of love for Van Halen.
Speaker C:Maybe the who at 5.
Speaker A:See, yeah, I think I agree with that.
Speaker B:I would be okay with that with the who instead of Pink Floyd.
Speaker B:At 5.
Speaker A:Now, see, I think.
Speaker A:I think you're going Beatles.
Speaker A:You can make an argument for Zeppelin, Stones, 2.
Speaker A:So there'd be 2, 3, 4.
Speaker A:I think it would be 4 Floyd, and maybe 5 would be the who.
Speaker B:It's that.
Speaker B:Listen, the thing on this list.
Speaker B:It's so horrible to begin with to ever rank people as.
Speaker B:As who's the best and who's.
Speaker B:How.
Speaker B:How do you.
Speaker B:How do you say that?
Speaker B:Nevada is the 23rd best, but Journey's the 24th.
Speaker C:Yeah, that seems like there should be a wider gap between those two bands.
Speaker B:Yeah, just.
Speaker B:Just a little bit.
Speaker B:You know what I mean?
Speaker B:But these lists are all.
Speaker B:Anyway, it's all clickbait, but there's definitely a good three or four that don't belong on here.
Speaker A:Do you think as I'm just throwing this out there, and both you guys will probably jump down my throat for saying this, but do you think as time has gone on, you think Nirvana has not aged all that great?
Speaker B:I think the Foo Fighters blew them out of the water.
Speaker B:I think as far as musically, they're just a way better band.
Speaker B:But I think they're going to go down more as the influential.
Speaker B:Well, I mean, because, again, look, Ken's, like, close to my age or my age or whatever, but when Teen Spirit came out, like, I can remember being.
Speaker B:I was either a freshman or sophomore in high school.
Speaker B:No, no, dude could you understand.
Speaker B:I was a hair metal kid, you know, Like, I was all about the.
Speaker B:The Deaf Leopards and the Poisons and the Warren skid row.
Speaker B:And then I heard this and just went, what the Is this?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And that was.
Speaker A:Was good.
Speaker A:I liked.
Speaker C:How is Springsteen not on this list?
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker C:You telling me Journey is the top 30 band?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:But why is Jimi Hendrix Experience on there?
Speaker B:That's a band.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Put Bruce at number five.
Speaker A:But he would be over Fleetwood Mac.
Speaker A:He'd be over the Doors.
Speaker A:He would be top 10.
Speaker B:He'd be top 10.
Speaker B:Definitely.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:It has to be Springsteen.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker C:Honestly, I would have the White Stripes in here over a lot of these bands.
Speaker A:Who you putting the White Stripes over, Ken?
Speaker C:All right, ready?
Speaker A:I know you're gonna go.
Speaker C:Tool, Kiss.
Speaker A:Journey, Kiss.
Speaker C:Maybe even Rage.
Speaker A:No way.
Speaker B:Yeah, I don't go with that.
Speaker A:I.
Speaker A:I can't.
Speaker A:Wow.
Speaker B:I'll give you Tool.
Speaker B:I'll give you a tool, because look.
Speaker C:At the White Stripes catalog.
Speaker B:Tool's a great band.
Speaker B:Like, they.
Speaker B:But they don't have monster hits.
Speaker B:Like, they have some, you know, big songs.
Speaker C:How often are you in the car?
Speaker C:Like, let Me listen to prison sex again.
Speaker B:I, I only come in there.
Speaker A:Just did it the other day.
Speaker C:Well, you probably kiss decision then.
Speaker A:I'm joking.
Speaker A:I didn't do that the other day.
Speaker B:So to me that they're a good band musically.
Speaker B:As a musician, they're mind blowing musicians.
Speaker B:But I would probably replace the White Stripes with that.
Speaker B:You know, the, with Tool, with the, with the White Stripes as well.
Speaker A:I think the first band I'm probably would take out with like, I, I would say you go with your gut.
Speaker A:And the first band that really like jumped out of me is like, wow, I can't believe that they're on the top 30 was tool.
Speaker A:And there's.
Speaker A:I, I would put.
Speaker A:I don't know, man.
Speaker A:I, I would.
Speaker A:I mean you guys make, make a good argument.
Speaker A:If you're going to put Jimi Hendrick Experience, you got to put Bruce Springsteen and, and the E Street Band.
Speaker A:That's a band.
Speaker C:I tell you something else.
Speaker C:The Eagles could right off.
Speaker A:Come on.
Speaker A:I think they're the biggest selling American rock band of all time.
Speaker C:Yeah, but it was it really rock.
Speaker A:Hotel California is Victim of Love is.
Speaker B:See, I'm ken, I am 100 like that with Rush.
Speaker C:Why is Joe Walsh so cool?
Speaker C:But the Eagles are not, they're not at all.
Speaker A:That was a Glenn Fry and Don Henley.
Speaker B:Well, Glenn's dead.
Speaker A:Yeah, but if you watch the documentary, they both come off as kind of like, like they, they kind of went from being like musicians and, and kind of like, you know, like a feel good spirit to kind of like being a little bit corporate and greedy.
Speaker B:Yeah, it's kind of like with Bon Jovi, they did a documentary a bunch of years ago when he said, I'm not the singer of a band anymore.
Speaker B:I'm a CEO of a multi million dollar corporation.
Speaker A:It's a great comparison.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Could they be on this band, on this list?
Speaker B:No.
Speaker A:Bon Jovi and I love them.
Speaker C:I wouldn't put him there, but I could see how you could make the argument.
Speaker B:Yeah, I, I agree.
Speaker C:I guess if I'm kicking the Eagles out, I can't bring Bon Jovi in.
Speaker B:That's true.
Speaker A:Okay, so.
Speaker A:All right, so just a couple more things before we wrap this one up.
Speaker A:Did you guys, did you guys see or follow the Grammys at all?
Speaker B:Yes, a little bit.
Speaker A:All right, so I always have a problem with the Grammys.
Speaker A:I think they're completely irrelevant at this point.
Speaker A:Although I was happy to see Flowers by Molly, Miley Cyrus winner for record of the year.
Speaker A:I thought that was a great song.
Speaker A:But you know, we're a rock show and if you look at the rock performance and metal performance, I mean this is just like absolute, man.
Speaker A:I mean best rock performance not Strong Enough by Boy Genius.
Speaker A:And best metal performance was 72 seasons Metallica.
Speaker A:And best rock album was this, this Is why by Paramore.
Speaker A:But now if you look at who was left off, okay, not even, not even a nomination for Green Day Saviors, the Cures new album, Songs for the Lost World, which.
Speaker A:And, and the single alone, Bruce Dickinson in metal.
Speaker A:It was a better album.
Speaker A:72.
Speaker C:I thought the Stones.
Speaker C:I thought the Stones.
Speaker C:One rock album.
Speaker A:I, I, the list I saw it said.
Speaker A:I thought so too.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker C:Diamonds.
Speaker C:I thought one.
Speaker B:I think you're right.
Speaker B:I'm gonna pull another.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I don't know why it said best rock album.
Speaker A:This is why Paramore.
Speaker A:But even still, but even still, I mean hacky Diamonds is fine, you know, for, for an 80 year old rock band, but it's not better than, than I think again, the Green Day album, the Cure album, the Jack White album's.
Speaker C:Better than all of them.
Speaker C:The Jack White album.
Speaker C:And they would never nominate a rock album for album album of the year.
Speaker C:But the Jack White album was the best album.
Speaker A:I don't think they know what, I don't think they know what they're.
Speaker A:They're nominated.
Speaker A:I don't.
Speaker A:Again, I think Priests Invincible Shield was, was a better overall album than, than Metallica, but I think Metallica has more name recognition.
Speaker B:You're, you're actually, you're off on this, Jeff.
Speaker B:The winner for best metal performance, which is what I thought it was, was Gojira with.
Speaker B:No, they're not.
Speaker B:Did you see the Olympic ceremony when they were playing?
Speaker A:And that's why they got, that's why it's a possibility.
Speaker B:It's a possibility.
Speaker A:But I thought that, I thought, you know, listen, I guess maybe, maybe I'm a little biased because I love Maiden.
Speaker A:I thought Dickinson was better.
Speaker A:I also think, you know, Ozzy had a song nominated this year, Crack Cocaine.
Speaker A:They did with Steve Stevens and Billy.
Speaker B:Morrison and the best rock performance, crack Cocaine.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:It's about, it's about love, how much.
Speaker C:They love cracking cocaine.
Speaker A:It is.
Speaker A:You know what?
Speaker A:I, I even think like, like Billy Joel's Turn the Lights Back on should have been nominated.
Speaker A:I love that song.
Speaker B:If I ever, I don't think I, I know I'm almost positive I've never had a thought to ever end my life, but however, if that time ever come, that would be the song that I Would play.
Speaker A:Sean, you and I have a Show together on March 1st.
Speaker A:I'm gonna pick you up, I'm gonna drive you there.
Speaker A:And on the whole way, that's all we're gonna listen to.
Speaker C:He's touring with, like, Rod Stewart and Sting.
Speaker C:And my wife sent me, she text me, like, the flyer for the tour, and she was like, hey, let's agree to never do this.
Speaker A:What it's.
Speaker A:What he's doing is he's playing stadiums and he's doing like, these big co hit headlines.
Speaker A:So, like, in New York, the three shows he's doing at different venues.
Speaker A:He's doing Rod Stewart, he's doing Stevie Nicks one night and Sting another.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, I think I'm gonna go see Billy Jones.
Speaker A:Sting.
Speaker B:That's all you, pal.
Speaker A:You guys don't want to go?
Speaker B:No, no, no.
Speaker B:Wants to go.
Speaker A:All right, so.
Speaker A:Yeah, so Grammys, Nothing big.
Speaker B:I mean, Beyonce winning country album of the year and album of the year was so well deserved, but, you know.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Better than Chris Stapleton.
Speaker A:You're right.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:It was.
Speaker B:I mean, it was very clear that this was a.
Speaker B:A purchase job by her husband.
Speaker B:And I'm.
Speaker B:And I'm okay with that if you have that kind of money.
Speaker A:Well, speaking of her husband, let's.
Speaker A:Let's wrap things up with the halftime show.
Speaker A:I don't know if you guys watched the Super Bowl.
Speaker A:I did.
Speaker A:Kind of curious what you thought about Kendrick Lamar, Ken.
Speaker C:So.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker C:I actually didn't see it.
Speaker C:We were at a Super bowl party half an hour away, and we left at halftime to get home for the second half.
Speaker C:I did listen to it on the.
Speaker C:On Sirius, and it sounded awful.
Speaker C:Not the, not the performance.
Speaker C:The actual, like, recording sounded awful.
Speaker C:You can barely.
Speaker C:Like the serious feed sounded terrible.
Speaker C:I didn't hear it, but I read the reviews and it.
Speaker C:It sounded like it was all just a big fuck you to Drake, which, like, to me to use the world's biggest stage just to be petty to some dude that you don't like.
Speaker B:Checkmate one.
Speaker C:Well, that won me over.
Speaker C:I.
Speaker C:I still don't know any of Kendrick Lamar's songs, but I am a fan.
Speaker A:Well, I.
Speaker A:I think you're.
Speaker A:You're right about the sound.
Speaker A:I mean, they come across terrible.
Speaker A:I think the problem with it is, listen, obviously it's not.
Speaker A:I'm not the demographic they're going after, but I just didn't.
Speaker A:I think when you're doing a halftime show, okay, I think the music has to have more of broad appeal.
Speaker A:And I.
Speaker A:You Know, I didn't know one song.
Speaker A:I, you know, you're telling me there's not an artist out there that they, they can pick that's not gonna, that's gonna be able to appeal to a little bit of everybody?
Speaker A:I, I thought this, I thought it was, it was bad.
Speaker C:Well, JJZ books the halfties in charge of the halftime show.
Speaker C:There's the rock bands aren't coming back anytime soon.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker A:But you know what?
Speaker A:I think Foo Fighters would, would be a good choice.
Speaker A:I don't know if they were available.
Speaker A:No, they haven't.
Speaker A:Yeah, they have.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah.
Speaker B:They've never done it.
Speaker A:No, I don't think you've never done it.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker B:I'll tell you, you're gonna have a rock band next year, though.
Speaker B:100.
Speaker A:Well, no, you keep saying this, and this is where I agree with you.
Speaker A:I think, you know, you said country is the new rock and I, I, you know, the more I hit I think about that, the more I think you're right.
Speaker A:And it wouldn't be like, would it be terrible to have like Miley Cyrus and, you know, a couple of like, you know, you know, newer country acts, a couple of older country acts and, you know, you know, you could put Shibuzzy on up on there.
Speaker A:I mean, yeah, next year will never be metallic.
Speaker B:It's gonna be Metallica next year.
Speaker B:Because next year the Super Bowl's in San Francisco and it's the 40, and it's the 45th anniversary of their, their demo.
Speaker B:So that's.
Speaker B:They're doing a whole big thing for it next year.
Speaker B:Mark my words, Metallica's playing it next year.
Speaker C:I, I, I hope there's absolutely no chance.
Speaker A:Yeah, I, I would get on this one.
Speaker B:I, like, I really, I, I'm not a Kendrick Lamar fan.
Speaker B:I know who he is.
Speaker B:I know that one of his albums is considered one of the greatest albums of all time.
Speaker B:And like one a Pulitzer.
Speaker B:Like, he's like, he's not like your typical rapper.
Speaker B:Like, he actually has thought behind his.
Speaker B:I have to agree with you, Ken getting Drake's ex girlfriend to do the Crip walk he used on the song that he's dissing Drake on is maybe the most masterful thing I've ever seen in my entire life.
Speaker A:It's Petty, it's.
Speaker B:Baby, it's amazing.
Speaker B:It's amazing.
Speaker B:Look, either one, that's the kind of.
Speaker C:I would do if I had money.
Speaker B:All three of us can be on a stage and have a comic that we don't like in the crowd, right?
Speaker B:And we could throw a jab at them like only we would get.
Speaker B:And we would get the thrill of a lifetime.
Speaker C:Right?
Speaker B:Can you imagine doing that in front of 500 million people?
Speaker A:I would never do that to you, Sean.
Speaker B:I would do it to you every time I do it to your podcast.
Speaker A:That's what makes me better than you.
Speaker B:No, just makes you more tolerant, which.
Speaker A:Makes me better than you.
Speaker A:I'm better than you.
Speaker A:I'm a better person than you.
Speaker B:You're okay.
Speaker B:I can't argue that you're.
Speaker B:Yeah, you are a better person than I am, Jeff.
Speaker B:I will agree with that.
Speaker A:Thank you.
Speaker A:As long as we say no.
Speaker B:But I him up by agreeing with him.
Speaker B:Do you see that, Ken?
Speaker B:He was totally ready to come back at me.
Speaker B:He's like, oh, he was being.
Speaker B:I derailed that with kindness right there.
Speaker A:Never agreed with me.
Speaker A:When we hang out outside of this, you don't agree with me.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker C:Wait, did you hear Sean call me.
Speaker C:Did you hear Sean called me Powder at the beginning of the show?
Speaker C:Yes, very funny.
Speaker A:You bring back a reference from an hour ago.
Speaker C:I know because I was just looking at myself and I was like, oh, I look like a friendly ghost.
Speaker A:You do.
Speaker A:You look like a guy who used to be like a comic in New Jersey and now like, you know, you're in the afterlife.
Speaker A:And you coming on our podcast and.
Speaker B:Help us out real estate.
Speaker A:Ken, thank you for coming on, man.
Speaker A:Tell us where people can find you.
Speaker A:What you got coming up?
Speaker A:How can we support you?
Speaker C:I got a couple podcasts a bit too much.
Speaker C:I love rock and roll.
Speaker C:I love rock and roll.
Speaker C:It's been gone a long time, but it's coming back.
Speaker C:And just look for me at Ken Krantz comic.
Speaker A:You know, before I let you go, you recommended a book to me a couple of years ago that you finished.
Speaker A:I loved it.
Speaker A:I referenced it a lot.
Speaker A:Ain't nothing but a good thing.
Speaker C:Oh, nothing but a good time.
Speaker C:The hair metal Oral history.
Speaker B:Great book.
Speaker C:I don't even like those bands.
Speaker C:And I read that book twice.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's a fun book, isn't it?
Speaker C:Yeah, I'll read it.
Speaker C:I'll read oral history.
Speaker C:Like they.
Speaker C:They've got their hooks in me deep.
Speaker C:I will read any oral history book.
Speaker B:There's a great one from Guns N Roses.
Speaker B:I'll.
Speaker B:When I see you, I'll.
Speaker B:I'll make sure I bring it and give it to you so you can read it.
Speaker B:It's a first hand, like a biography.
Speaker B:It was their old photographer or another old.
Speaker B:Their old manager wrote the book.
Speaker B:So you're getting it from the couch all the way.
Speaker B:You know, it's.
Speaker B:It's really, really good.
Speaker C:I just read a 700 page oral history on the ABA.
Speaker C:I will read any oral history.
Speaker C:There's a good one on Jane's Addiction called Whores.
Speaker A:You want.
Speaker A:I used.
Speaker A:I used to go to the ABA games.
Speaker A:And I remember my father.
Speaker A:I don't know what he did, but when we would go, we would sit courtside, but then again, nobody was going.
Speaker A:But you would see Dr.
Speaker A:J and George McGinnis and I think Artis Gilmore, Dan Issle.
Speaker A:I mean, you saw guys who actually wound up becoming like, stars in the NBA.
Speaker C:My dad always talked about Dan Issel.
Speaker B:Jeff was that back in the day when they had their own water coolers.
Speaker A:And stuff, they used to play the games at.
Speaker A:At National Coliseum out in Uniondale.
Speaker A:I'm just not even acknowledging.
Speaker A:All right, listen, this has been probably the episode I've liked the least since we've been doing this.
Speaker C:That's.
Speaker C:That's what I go for as a guest.
Speaker C:I just want to see how big of an anchor I could be.
Speaker C:I'm gonna fuck up the lighting.
Speaker C:I'm gonna go off on weird tangents.
Speaker C:I'm gonna tell the host how much his band suck.
Speaker B:It's as much like your.
Speaker B:Your actual act, Ken.
Speaker B:Like, you really go up there and you really just tell the crowd, I don't give a fuck if you like this or not.
Speaker B:You gotta listen to this for 20 minutes.
Speaker A:But listen, we do really appreciate you coming on the show.
Speaker A:It's been a long time.
Speaker A:I've been wanting to get you on for.
Speaker A:For quite a while.
Speaker A:So I'm really glad you were able to come and do this.
Speaker A:And I thought this was great.
Speaker A:Thank you for having me.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Any dates.
Speaker A:Anything you got you want to plug.
Speaker A:By the time Adam puts us out, it'll be summer.
Speaker B:No, no, nothing to really plug right now.
Speaker B: try and tape that sometime in: Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:Hey, check us all out.
Speaker A:We all have Facebook pages, Instagram websites.
Speaker A:You can always go to Laughingstock Comic Club.
Speaker A:Got a lot of coming up and we'll catch you next time.
Speaker A:Thank you guys so much.
Speaker A:Okay, Sean, I'll see you soon.
Speaker A:Take care.
